[NoMoreLies]

Redsand11j wrote:

It is entirely subjective- just because you recognize that other people have different ideologies, and those are just as valid as yours are, doesn't mean that you follow them. If my ideology is one of a Fascist, for whatever reason (although it's not), then I would support State Command Capitalism, and the removal of whatever rights the fascist leader calls for, although I recognize that libertarians dislike that.

Yet you don't support a federal system, in which you could have your own ideology alongside other peoples, and if you changed your beliefs you could merely change state?

I recognise two rights: the right not to be harmed, and the right to move to somewhere with similar political ideology.

[Locksley]

Surely morality isn't entirely subjective. What we need to decide upon are basic values and guidelines that a majority of people would find reasonable. I say majority rather than all, due to the fact that there are sadists,masochists, and what have you.

[Redsand11j]

Actually, no. My point is just that morality is entirely subjective. People have power because people give them power, and I think that if people could agree on a way to govern themselves, they would surrender their power to whoever it is.

It is entirely subjective- just because you recognize that other people have different ideologies, and those are just as valid as yours are, doesn't mean that you follow them. If my ideology is one of a Fascist, for whatever reason (although it's not), then I would support State Command Capitalism, and the removal of whatever rights the fascist leader calls for, although I recognize that libertarians dislike that.

[NoMoreLies]

Nihilistic Anarchy?

What kind of system is hat to use for a Cleansl;ate Citystate?! Besides, anarchy is the leaast stable form of government.

[Redsand11j]

No, I was just pointing out that in today's society there are police to stop you from doing that, and I have no compunction to calling for help from then. In our clean slate I would call for help from other sources as well, or we could fight it out.