[Redsand11j]

Perhaps I did contradict myself slightly with the "rational self-interest" one. But the point remains that Anarcho-communism ultimately benefits everyone, so destroying it does hurt oneself as much as everyone else.

BTW, I'm not suggesting that one should practice total self-sacrifice- just that a person should realize and act based on the knowledge that they are no better than anyone else.

[Locksley]

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The reason that I'm more Statist that you are is that barring things you consider impossible I accept a state approximately equal in size to the one we currently have as necessary. It's obvious that, in the vast majority of circumstances, society, and a rational understanding of where one's true self- advantage lies, will be more than enough to keep anarcho-communism running. Also, I'm not opposed to gengineering for the slight remainder.

Perhaps you don't understand the definition of anarcho-communism, as you seem to be contradicting yourself.

[Redsand11j]

The reason that I'm more Statist that you are is that barring things you consider impossible I accept a state approximately equal in size to the one we currently have as necessary.

That all goes out the window, of course, when we consider the immense range of behaviors across history, based both on culture (If people work for their own rational self advantage, why in the middle ages did people seem to lack ambition? Their rational self advantage would have been to steal and revolt, yet feudalism is among the most stable systems in existence. It wasn't the power of authority, because authority had almost no power.

It's obvious that, in the vast majority of circumstances, society, and a rational understanding of where one's true self- advantage lies, will be more than enough to keep anarcho-communism running. Also, I'm not opposed to gengineering for the slight remainder.

[NoMoreLies]

Which is very unlikely, since all previous attempts have failed.

Federal Nightwatchmen proponents (technically Federal Minarchists) attempt to work with human nature, while recognizing people can't all get on. That's why it's a federal system, because it allows people to find their own natural government. If they're Anarcho-Communists, fine: as long as they don't violate peoples basic rights, they can do whatever the heck they like.

[Locksley]

How can proponents of a state be more anti-statist than someone who is vehemently advocating anarcho-communism? It's not possible.

The problem with your "system" Redsand is that for it to work, human nature would have to be changed.