http://cleanslate.editboard.com/feed/? Latest topics Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:27:08 GMT 10 http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r318/Sir_Spike/EcopolisEcocityMetropolis.jpg http://cleanslate.editboard.com/feed/? http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cleanslate-constitution-t72.htm NoMoreLies Here is my proposal for a constitution. Words in brackets are words beign used until better words can be found. _______________________________________________ Preamble We, the people of the [CSCS], define our rights and systems of government here in our constitution. Rights The [CSCS] recognizes the basic rights of humans being: 1. The right not to be harmed. Harm is defined as something which causes them pain, or unneccersary change to their mental or physical ... General Topics Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:14:54 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cleanslate-constitution-t72.htm#1961 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cleanslate-constitution-t72.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/spaceport-america-t76.htm Flash http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spaceport_America#History

Too bad it'll take 200,000 just for a flight into space.]]> Clean Slate Technology Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:14:28 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/spaceport-america-t76.htm#2088 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/spaceport-america-t76.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/a-mars-city-t51.htm Lucien Zakhaev
Thanks in advance.]]> General Topics Mon, 21 Jul 2008 19:40:41 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/a-mars-city-t51.htm#508 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/a-mars-city-t51.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/conciliation-of-uu-and-nightwatchmen-state-t79.htm Redsand11j There's a character limit to topic titles But anyway, right now on this forum we have one Universal Utilitarian, two Federal Nightwatchmen statists, and one... Martian (Republic, that is ). At this point, we already know what the others think. I wonder if we can come to some sort of compromise? "Just go make a UU community in one of our states" is not an acceptable compromise on this one. First of all, that's not a compromise. Second, that leaves the many unfavorable ... Clean Slate Government Sun, 16 Aug 2009 16:27:08 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/conciliation-of-uu-and-nightwatchmen-state-t79.htm#2173 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/conciliation-of-uu-and-nightwatchmen-state-t79.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/a-suggestion-for-an-election-t66.htm NoMoreLies I've posted this over at NewMars. It's about the Democracy/Efficiency tradeoff. Basically, when voting for a candidate (for instance, it could be a bill or proposition as well) you have to answer a short, multiple choice/true or false quiz on their policies. If you completely fail the test and only get questions right due to seer luck, your vote won't be counted (or will be counted, but as 1/10 of a normal vote, with the worth of your vote rising the better your score is). To use the recent ... Clean Slate Government Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:26:38 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/a-suggestion-for-an-election-t66.htm#1721 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/a-suggestion-for-an-election-t66.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/gold-backed-currency-t29.htm Flash Hey so who here supports a gold-backed currency? I read that if all our money is backed by gold we would never hack to worry about inflation. Clean Slate Economics Sat, 03 Nov 2007 01:39:37 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/gold-backed-currency-t29.htm#139 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/gold-backed-currency-t29.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/basic-human-rights-t77.htm NoMoreLies I managed to come up with these three so far: 1. The right not to be harmed. Harm is defined as something which causes them pain, or unneccersary change to their mental or physical state. 2. The right not to be interfered with, unless it is justified by the above right. 3. The right to do anything that does not violate the rights of other people, as defined above. However, I'm thinking that 2 and 3 could be conditional, especially in the context of a Fderal Nightwatmen/Minarchist ... General Topics Sun, 09 Aug 2009 22:41:50 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/basic-human-rights-t77.htm#2144 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/basic-human-rights-t77.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/100-trillion-of-credit-for-government-projects-in-50-year-t78.htm Anonymous The topic is government generated credit in a credit system and how much credit should be created and used for what purposes? I believe in really big government, with really big budgets, that generate really economies as a result of those really big investments in the infrastructure of that Nations economy that the government has to built up. I am talking about generated credit out of thin air vs tax money from the people. The topic of this thread is government generated credit and how much ... Clean Slate Government Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:49:52 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/100-trillion-of-credit-for-government-projects-in-50-year-t78.htm#2169 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/100-trillion-of-credit-for-government-projects-in-50-year-t78.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/libertarian-ocean-colonies-t49.htm Flash
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That seems like a weird idea. I guess if you hate your ocean neighborhood then you row to the next.]]> General Topics Sat, 28 Jun 2008 04:47:51 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/libertarian-ocean-colonies-t49.htm#415 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/libertarian-ocean-colonies-t49.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/democracy-vs-republican-system-of-government-t18.htm Anonymous I did a Google search on the differences between a Democracy and a Republic. The basic difference is that a Democracy can be a tyrant of the majority against the minority or the individual and a Republican System has a Constitution for the express purpose of defending the individual or the minority group of people. The primary difference being an unlimited authority of the majority in a Democracy that becomes tyranny vs a limited authority of the majority under a Constitutional Republic with ... Clean Slate Government Fri, 13 Apr 2007 01:53:09 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/democracy-vs-republican-system-of-government-t18.htm#63 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/democracy-vs-republican-system-of-government-t18.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/fascism-t22.htm Flash
So could Fascism ever work??]]> Clean Slate Government Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:52:07 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/fascism-t22.htm#97 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/fascism-t22.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/clean-slate-economics-t30.htm Mike I've recently flicked through Erik S Reinerts excellent new book, "How Rich Countries Got Rich, and Why Poor Countries Stay Poor". In it, Reinert asserts the importance of basing economic theories on real observations, not purely on idealistic theory as has been published before. Here is an excerpt and following that are a few notes I made while flicking through: pg7: "Antonio Serra. 17th Century economist, sought to explain why his hometown of Naples remained so ... Clean Slate Economics Fri, 04 Jan 2008 13:46:38 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/clean-slate-economics-t30.htm#148 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/clean-slate-economics-t30.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/roll-call-t64.htm NoMoreLies Is anyone still there? General Topics Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:09:20 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/roll-call-t64.htm#1693 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/roll-call-t64.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-pcs-t4.htm Mike Modern personal computers are products of gradual evolution. They are extremely complex, and like many complex things, they are inherently slow to change. However, it is their complexity which makes them reliable and stable; any modifications that are made can be easily undone or simply ignored if they turn out to be less useful than anticipated. Nevertheless, I believe there are at least a few arguments in favor of designing a clean-slate PC. Firstly, the gradual evolution of the PC has ... Clean Slate Technology Wed, 27 Dec 2006 11:08:34 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-pcs-t4.htm#5 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-pcs-t4.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/ron-paul-t25.htm Flash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8

This guy looks great. Everyone should vote for him I hope!]]> Free Chat Sat, 01 Sep 2007 04:59:41 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/ron-paul-t25.htm#128 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/ron-paul-t25.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/levels-of-government-t70.htm NoMoreLies To use America as an example, we have an overarching layer (the Federal government), moving down to the state layer, through the county layer, and ending at the town layer. Obviously, there are somethings that should be organized at a Federal layer, defence for instance. I see the Federal layer as a sort of net, which connects the states. This layer is responisble for Defence, and serves to support projects states might not be able to do on their own (Space Programs for instance). Basic ... Clean Slate Government Sat, 21 Feb 2009 12:14:57 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/levels-of-government-t70.htm#1791 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/levels-of-government-t70.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/hello-everyone-t9.htm Flash http://newmars.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5178


So hello everyone!]]> Free Chat Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:39:42 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/hello-everyone-t9.htm#23 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/hello-everyone-t9.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/radical-manned-mars-mission-architecture-t27.htm Mike Radical Manned Mars Mission Architecture: - Utilizing the Ares V SDLV and Orion derived Hab architecture. It is a direct continuation of Project Constellation. - Under the plan, an ERV, together with the required in-situ technology and large nuclear power source, is not initially required, if at all. This enables the mission to be executed immediately after the new Lunar goals have been fulfilled. - Initially, a Hab module is all that is required. This will be smaller than the ... Free Chat Sat, 08 Sep 2007 06:00:59 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/radical-manned-mars-mission-architecture-t27.htm#133 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/radical-manned-mars-mission-architecture-t27.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-space-program-t75.htm Locksley I'm sure issues with the space program(s) have been thoroughly covered on NewMars, but I'd like to get some ideas for a Clean Slate Space Program. I'll start off adding a few improvements that I'd like to see: -Government-independent organization. Government funding could be provided for certain types of programs, i.e. military contracts, if necessary, but primary funding would come from private investors and profit from technologies. -Goal-oriented. An organization that gets things ... Clean Slate Technology Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:40:47 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-space-program-t75.htm#2068 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-space-program-t75.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/tech-level-t34.htm NoMoreLies What level of technology should it have? Should it use nuclear power, coal; or solar, biofuel, wind, tital, and Hydro? What should the buildings be made of? How should the crops be grown? Should we try to make the tech look as inconspicuas as possible? Clean Slate Technology Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:22:43 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/tech-level-t34.htm#171 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/tech-level-t34.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/how-the-cscs-works-t74.htm Mike I haven't written anything in a while so I thought it was about time I did! I thought I'd write something about the economics behind the whole CSCS concept; sorta the business case for it. Here are some ideas to consider: The CSCS will be a self-sustainable economic island of stability. The world as it is today is vulnerable to the effects of diminishing resources, whether that is oil, agriculturally productive land, water, or any other resource. If one of these resources runs out too quickly, ... General Topics Sun, 07 Jun 2009 14:31:20 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/how-the-cscs-works-t74.htm#2007 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/how-the-cscs-works-t74.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/global-climate-change-fact-or-fiction-t73.htm Locksley Mike's recent post about eco-cement jogged my memory about an issue I've been wanting to discuss which is clearly going to affect our CSCS. Before we start forking out the dough for something that "reduces" our impact on anthropogenic global warming, perhaps a conclusion should be reached on the actual scale and causes of global climate change. Contrary to what Al Gore would like people to believe, scientific consensus on the causes, impacts, effects, scale, etc. of global ... General Topics Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:59:31 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/global-climate-change-fact-or-fiction-t73.htm#1983 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/global-climate-change-fact-or-fiction-t73.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-ethics-and-morality-t71.htm Redsand11j The rules (for this thread, at least): 1. No discussion pertaining to any deity, whatsoever. "Because god/bible/whatever said so" is not a CS approach, and thus doesn't belong in a CSCS website. There are always other threads, though. 2. Nothing should be without a reason. IOW, I think...Because... . I consider this to be one of the biggest flaws in current ethical theory (Although at this point, calling it a theory would probably be an insult to science). You can say ... General Topics Sun, 31 May 2009 00:43:31 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-ethics-and-morality-t71.htm#1941 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-ethics-and-morality-t71.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/legacy-abortion-rights-t60.htm Locksley A fundamental question that needs to be addressed, to provide a focus and a direction for our city, other than just being a “clean-slate” is: What makes a city great? What characteristics make London, New York, or Paris standout above others? It’s not population, I don’t know many people who would place Mumbai or Karachi, the most populous cities, on the top of the list. It’s not necessarily because of a high standard of living, Vienna and Helsinki have some of the highest standards of living ... General Topics Thu, 18 Sep 2008 02:33:38 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/legacy-abortion-rights-t60.htm#903 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/legacy-abortion-rights-t60.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-is-the-goal-t39.htm Redsand11j what is the goal of society? Is it to make everyone happy? Is it to increace freedom to the max? To maintain order and stability? To ensure prosperity? I think that this is the big decision that we have to make, then we can decide on everything else. General Topics Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:38:49 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-is-the-goal-t39.htm#214 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-is-the-goal-t39.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/vote-location-of-city-t68.htm Redsand11j There are currently, it seems, a few proposals about location presented in this thread, and this thread. In summary, the locations suggested are: -Antarctica: Specifically the marie byrd land, which is unclaimed. -South Australia -The Rocha district is Uruguay -The Upernavic or another region of greenland -The Vanatinai province in papua new guinea -As a boat or some such in the ocean I think we should regard this poll as final. General Topics Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:17:19 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/vote-location-of-city-t68.htm#1745 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/vote-location-of-city-t68.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/patent-system-t13.htm Mike From Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_to_file_and_first_to_invent ): Quote:The debate as to which system is better is long-running and unlikely to reach a single conclusion. There are arguments for and against both systems. The first to file system leads to procedural certainty as the filing date of an application can very rarely be challenged. In contrast, the first to invent system leads to uncertainty as the right to grant of a patent can be challenged by a second ... General Topics Mon, 29 Jan 2007 01:48:07 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/patent-system-t13.htm#41 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/patent-system-t13.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-will-the-official-language-be-for-cs-t63.htm Lucien Zakhaev Lojban? Esperanto? English? General Topics Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:13:53 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-will-the-official-language-be-for-cs-t63.htm#1529 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-will-the-official-language-be-for-cs-t63.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/intensive-agriculture-systems-t67.htm Locksley Hydroponics, to put it very simply, is soil-free agriculture. Plants are grown in either a support medium such as expanded clay or floating trays. Nutrients are supplied via water directly to the plants' roots through a drip or flood type irrigation system. The advantages of this lies in nearly weed and disease free growing conditions and crop density. An acre of land growing corn could be converted to an intense hydroponic system, exponentially increasing food production and efficiency. With ... General Topics Wed, 11 Feb 2009 03:53:21 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/intensive-agriculture-systems-t67.htm#1737 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/intensive-agriculture-systems-t67.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/public-workshops-t69.htm NoMoreLies
And I can't add a poll.]]> Clean Slate Technology Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:14:04 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/public-workshops-t69.htm#1781 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/public-workshops-t69.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/how-the-25-hour-day-might-work-t21.htm Mike Here are some points I made about the 25-hour day system, clipped from another thread: "A more extreme, but highly efficient, method to smooth the loads on roads, and at the same time make traffic highly predictable, is to introduce staggered work start times which extend throughout the day and night. Having the whole city operate 24 hours a day will ensure that all infrastructure is used to its fullest capacity, and will greatly increase the economy of the city, especially manufacturing ... General Topics Fri, 20 Apr 2007 23:03:13 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/how-the-25-hour-day-might-work-t21.htm#84 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/how-the-25-hour-day-might-work-t21.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-cars-t53.htm lkm I thought this topic deserved it's own thread and for the purposes herein I shall define a car as point to point transportation for personal use, motorized, and by land. Should the cs city have cars or be car free? What should they look like, how should they be powered, be driven? can they fly? (pleaaaaaase can they fly?) Some links to think about: http://faculty.washington.edu/jbs/itrans/dualmode.htm http://www.theoscarproject.org/ http://www.airshiptg.org/index.htm http://www.templetons.com/brad/robocars/ I ... Clean Slate Technology Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:22:16 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-cars-t53.htm#539 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-technology-f6/clean-slate-cars-t53.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-should-be-the-first-thing-to-buy-for-the-place-t37.htm NoMoreLies I'd like to suggest an Airship should be the first thing the Clean Slate Society should buy. A small one with a lift of 10mt should do. It would be able to serve as a conferencing area, transportation for members from they're country to the project site, somewhere for the government to be based, and a temporary base during the initial stages of construction. Similar to AirForce One. It wouldn't (shouldn't) cost too much. Another (related) idea would be to just build the entire place as a ... General Topics Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:34:43 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-should-be-the-first-thing-to-buy-for-the-place-t37.htm#187 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/what-should-be-the-first-thing-to-buy-for-the-place-t37.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/democracy-minimum-voting-age-and-for-everything-else-t45.htm NoMoreLies Something that really gets on my nerves about the world is that I'm denied the right to vote simply because I'm under 18. I could evaluate the issues and make an informed vote better than a lot of adults (the Votes of the Ignorant?), but I'm not allowed to vote. So the question is this: At what age should people be allowed to vote? The system would have to be safeqaurded of course from Parents/Guardians/Whoever using their childrens votes. Maybe that could be accomplished by having the voting ... Clean Slate Government Fri, 16 May 2008 21:01:28 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/democracy-minimum-voting-age-and-for-everything-else-t45.htm#303 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/democracy-minimum-voting-age-and-for-everything-else-t45.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/failings-at-the-cs-forum-t65.htm Redsand11j I am partially in agreement with Davamanra with respect to the condition of these forums. Our failures, in my opinion, are as follows: 1. We have allowed this forum to degenerate into a standing argument on the liberal and conservative sides of american politics. 2. We have yet to come to a consensus on even one single issue. This is utterly disdainful. 3. We have abandoned the CS ideal of using totally new solutions, as previously mentioned just arguing over the Republican ... General Topics Fri, 02 Jan 2009 01:31:07 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/failings-at-the-cs-forum-t65.htm#1698 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/failings-at-the-cs-forum-t65.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cs-food-water-t47.htm Redsand11j these are necessary for life. how should food be grown/ obtained within the boundaries of a city? Water, if it is on the coast, can be obtained through desalinization, but what about food? General Topics Sat, 31 May 2008 15:23:57 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cs-food-water-t47.htm#357 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cs-food-water-t47.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/is-there-a-plan-to-generate-money-to-build-the-city-t62.htm Lucien Zakhaev In order to build a Clean Slate CIty State, we need money. How can this be done? General Topics Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:37:18 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/is-there-a-plan-to-generate-money-to-build-the-city-t62.htm#1528 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/is-there-a-plan-to-generate-money-to-build-the-city-t62.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-metropolis-t10.htm Mike Imagine a new city of around 5 million, designed and built from scratch. Utilizing modern design philosophies, a mix of transport methods, and environmentally friendly infrastructure. Lets look at some of the potential benefits to a clean slate city: - Planning for a large, dense population from the get-go, we can design more efficienct, expandable infrastructures. For example, a false underground can be created to contain pipes, electricity, and transport systems, each of which can ... General Topics Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:40:22 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-metropolis-t10.htm#27 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-metropolis-t10.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/airships-t36.htm NoMoreLies I'd like to suggest a clean transportation system for cargo: Airships. They don't need roads, a big plus, and don't require as much fuel. They could be used for busses as well. Coaches. General Topics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:43:02 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/airships-t36.htm#175 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/airships-t36.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-military-t15.htm JFritchlee As unplesant as this topic can be, it should be addressed. What should be the purpose of the military in a clean-slate society? How should such a society organise a military force? Should it be like the Swiss, the French (foriegn leigon), the Americans (volunteer), the Soviets (conscription) or some other method that has not been tried yet? How should such a force be equipped? Paid? Trained? Sorry for such an open question, but it can be an interesting one. General Topics Mon, 12 Mar 2007 02:30:18 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-military-t15.htm#53 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-military-t15.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/website-t35.htm NoMoreLies
This could grow into a massive project if we let it.]]> General Topics Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:41:03 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/website-t35.htm#174 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/website-t35.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/the-slow-life-t61.htm Locksley
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The point I was trying to make is that perhaps we need to consider, when planning our city, to incorporate some of these principles to create the quality of life that our residents deserve.]]> General Topics Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:17:31 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/the-slow-life-t61.htm#1101 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/the-slow-life-t61.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cs-electricity-the-financial-crisis-t38.htm Redsand11j Electricity is really the choke point for what you can do. there is about 28% silicon by weight, 8% aluminum, 6% iron, and a little of everything else in dirt, once you break everything down ot elements. (www.indiana.edu/~geol116/week2/mineral.htm) If you have good energy, you have plenty of metal etc. So what kind of energy? I would suggest a mix between Solar and nuclear, about 2/3 solar, 1/3 nuclear. For solar, I think sterling cycle, which can be realistically 50% efficient, ... General Topics Thu, 21 Feb 2008 22:18:47 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cs-electricity-the-financial-crisis-t38.htm#195 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/cs-electricity-the-financial-crisis-t38.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-location-t56.htm lkm I think it's time to return to the 'where this city should be' debate. And I think it needs its own thread. Besides the original Australian location Somalia was suggested as offering certain advantages but I've come to thing that perhaps a clean slate city state also needs a cleanslate location. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlantropa Perhaps what's needed is a clean slate geography from which to pick a clean slate location, so forgetting the bit about daming the med how about we flood ... General Topics Fri, 08 Aug 2008 16:53:37 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-location-t56.htm#633 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-location-t56.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/flag-of-esperance-t31.htm Mike




The stripes represent the six continents (white stripes) and the seven seas (blues stripes), while the 12-stars in a cirlce represent unity and completeness.

Let me know what you think.]]> General Topics Sun, 06 Jan 2008 08:55:06 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/flag-of-esperance-t31.htm#150 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/flag-of-esperance-t31.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/clean-slate-government-t8.htm Flash
I think a true Republic thats doesn't censore freedom of speech (such as in Europe where some nations make racism illegal) and a libertarian society with capitalist ideals.

So what would you like? Capitalism, socialism, communism, or what?]]> Clean Slate Government Sat, 13 Jan 2007 21:38:30 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/clean-slate-government-t8.htm#22 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-government-f4/clean-slate-government-t8.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/to-the-moon-and-beyond-or-not-as-the-budget-may-be-t52.htm lkm I was wondering, how does everybody here feel about Ares versus Direct versus something else entirely? Free Chat Fri, 25 Jul 2008 12:23:06 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/to-the-moon-and-beyond-or-not-as-the-budget-may-be-t52.htm#536 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/to-the-moon-and-beyond-or-not-as-the-budget-may-be-t52.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/taxation-t46.htm Redsand11j I think that for a source of income, the government should bake metals out of dirt using cheap nuclear energy, and sell those on the world market. Couple that with mild taxation/very small tariffs on imports, and a decent sales tax, and the government should have plenty of money. Clean Slate Economics Mon, 19 May 2008 20:13:40 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/taxation-t46.htm#323 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/clean-slate-economics-f5/taxation-t46.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-health-service-t43.htm lkm There are currently only really three methods of running a national health service in practice at the moment, a taxation based socialized health service, an insurance based service, and a fee based service. They each have their problems, the taxation based service works from a fixed budget which means more expensive treatments become difficult to pay for while the insurance and fee based service tend to lead to health exclusion for the worse off. There is however a deeper and more insidious ... General Topics Sat, 10 May 2008 12:27:17 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-health-service-t43.htm#285 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/general-topics-f2/clean-slate-health-service-t43.htm http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/a-united-north-america-t12.htm Flash www.UnitedNorthAmerica.org

These guys want a united north america. Kind of like NAU. I'm not really into that kind of idea.]]> Free Chat Sun, 28 Jan 2007 01:05:20 GMT http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/a-united-north-america-t12.htm#37 http://cleanslate.editboard.com/free-chat-f1/a-united-north-america-t12.htm